enfiel no 1 mk3 project terminer

Salut,
J'ai un autre projet de terminer, j'ai enfin trouver une enfield no 1 en bonne état pour aller dans full stock que j'ai fini de retapper.
BSA 1916 match, aucun head space, le canon en super état cette carabine groupe comme un charme, j'ai fait du 300 mètre avec hier. les douille ressort de la chambre en parfaite condition pas de déformation. fini huile de lin .

le seule HIC!!! c'est une( DP ). surement une DP qui ne méritait pas de l'être.

Wow!!! Elle est vraiment mais vraiment belle
Tu l'as tres bien reussi.


C'est quoi ca une DP ?

DP en gros je suis pas un expert mais c'est comme elle bonne juste a faire des exercice de parade ou des chose du genre, autrement dit elle est plus safe a tiré avec je crois?? mais selon se que j'ai lu, plusieurs on été classer DP parce que ont avait besoin de DP simplement et se sont des armes qui était en bonne condition, mais comme je te dit je suis pas très bon en historique d'armes. il y a beaucoup de controverse a propos de sujet sur le net.

BEN T'AS UNE D.P. QUI A UN LOOK D'ENFER!
Très beau travail!
PP.

DP ? pardonné mon ignorance mais cela veut dire quoi ? De Parade ?

Remarque... elle est cool

Drill Purpose. Parade seulement...
PP.

PP., une autre belle femme que ce n'est pas gênent de sortir avec.

Surement d'autre membre vont donner des explication aux marquage DP pour les lee enfield.

Drill purpose (parade seulement). Selon ce que je viens de lire, c'est une indication que ce n'est pas conseillé de tirer avec l'arme car elle est dangereuse.
http://forums.gunboards.com/archive/index.php/t-169367.html

DP rifles in Britain

I have mentioned ‘Britain’ here but while I can’t include Canada, I can certainly include New Zealand and Australia with a degree of certainty plus India, whose Army liaison Officer at work ran his eyes over this paper for me. I have also mentioned DP too and in this respect, it isn’t meant to mean ‘DRILL’ in the parade square context, it is meant to indicate practicing your rifle ‘training drills’. And it’s not only rifles that were downgraded to DP either because in the days of the old ‘number’ radio sets, many of these were classified as DP sets too.

When I read about DP rifles in various places, I get the impression from the armchair experts that they are formulated by someone in the Armourers shop who decides that he’ll make/convert a few rifles in order to …………. NOTHING could be more dangerous nor further from the truth. One other thing too. Do not mix up DP rifles with the ‘higher’ standard (?) ‘sub-standard’ rifles that trickled out of service in the early 50’s. At least there were gauging limits for those!

When need exists for such rifles, the idea is put up to the Brigade Training Major for example and ‘staffed’ up the chain of command where a decision on the matter will be reached after due questioning of all concerned. I’ll take a fictitious unit training for an operational role in bongo-bongo land. The attrition rate of the weapons on the training team, due to the arduous nature of the training is critical is such that they need 20 rifles and 6 GPMG’s that can be used and abused. Authority is given for them to be issued these ‘extra’ DP classified weapons from Ordnance stockpiles. So, in the normal course of events, these are issued from training stocks.

But, let’s say the DP stocks aren’t available, then authority will be issued FROM THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE no less, for such weapons to be made available. Ordnance stores would then select from returned weapons that are deemed to be ‘ZF’ (that’s an Armourers technical explanation that I won’t go into) or BER (Beyond Economic Repair) to select the required amount for conversion to DP specification.

Now, if the required amount cannot be made from the ZF and BER stocks, then the remainder will simply be converted from standard war stocks. You will see from this, that while on the face of it, some 30 years down the line that your bright and shining No1 or No4 rifle LOOKS bright and shining, under the bright and shiny surface might be lurking a metallurgical nightmare ……………… Let me give you an example

During the 60’s and 70’s there was a constant need for No4 DP rifles, not only for cadet Forces but Parachute training too where the actual carrying of a rifle was more important than what the weapon was for. The reason for the attrition in this case was quite understandable. So a small but continuous rolling programme of ‘DP-ing’ was undertaken. Naturally many ZF/BER No4’s plus otherwise serviceable rifles were put into the programme plus a healthy dollop of L1A1 rifles too. Not only were these worn out rifles put into the pot, but we later learned, several thousand extensively fire damaged No4, L1A1 rifles and Bren guns that had been involved in a massive fire. These were aesthetically cleaned down, rebuilt to DP standard and profusely marked JUST so that there could be no doubt about their status. Oh, they looked very nice but what had gone on under the surface was a matter of conjecture. Would YOU fire one? I’ve been an Armourer for a couple of years and while I or your local gunsmith could examine one and give it a bright clean bill of health, would YOU trust it. NO, I wouldn’t either!

Let me give you another example too. NO dates here of course but ‘recently’ several hundred assorted weapons were recovered from a fire ravaged/damaged ship, sunk in low water (and later towed out to sea and scuttled). These were all quickly earmarked for scrap and eventually side tracked for DP/Training use. Like the other example, these were also cleaned, and refurbished, painted and ‘restored’ to aesthetically ‘serviceable’ condition. Oh, they looked good but within a couple of years, these had started to rust from under the welds, seams and joints.

And before I forget, let me remind you of something else too, JUST in case you’re tempted to buy one to use as spare parts. This is what the Armourers bible says. ‘……..it will be assembled as far as possible with components which are below the standard required for a service weapon’. And another thing you ought to remember. There were NO gauging limits for DP rifles. Mmmmmmm, food for thought there!

That’s about it. In my very limited experience as an Armourer and having overseen some of these DP programmes, I can tell you with certainty that they were all profusely marked DP so that their status was unambiguous. Agreed, some might be taken straight from stocks, but the rest ……………

Would YOU trust one? There certainly IS a place for a DP rifle in a collection as it forms a place in the lineage of the breed. But in the cupboard or rack or on the wall. NOT on the firing point.


And how does he know this? An Engineering Graduate, Capt. Peter Laidler is the senior Armourer in the British Army since serving his apprenticeship between January1963 and 66. He is currently the senior technical Officer at the Small Arms School at Warminster. And oversaw the introduction of the current L59 series of DP rifle. Or he just guessed. Pick what you think suits!
Resurrect a DP rifle from ANY nation......., no fear!

Je l'avait lu, mais il y a d'autre article qui dise autre chose, la mienne a été vérifier.
C'est pas facile de faire une idée juste.

C'est comme les Mauser 98 transformer en fusil de chasse Geha après la premier guerre,
on en dit toute sorte de chose. Justement j'en ait rénover un cette hivers je vous envoie des photos.

voici le Geha en question

just for the bang a écrit:

Je l'avait lu, mais il y a d'autre article qui dise autre chose, la mienne a été vérifier.
C'est pas facile de faire une idée juste.

C'est comme les Mauser 98 transformer en fusil de chasse Geha après la premier guerre,
on en dit toute sorte de chose. Justement j'en ait rénover un cette hivers je vous envoie des photos.

Apparemment les Lithgow qui ont DP dessus signifierait qu'elles sont plutot en super condition, mais fait checkez la tienne par un armurier et il va la tester lui-meme pour être certain parce que ta No1 me semble qu'elle est trop belle pour n'être qu'un wall hanger..

C'est comme je mentionnait plus haut c'est compliquer de ce faire une idée précise, J'ai lu aussi l'article qui parle des Lightgow , DP pour une no 4 est plus inquiétant que pour une no 1.
merci Kaboom pour la recherche.
en tout les cas c'est la no 1 dans la meilleure condition de tir que j'ai vu jusqu’à présent . Si elle a un vice cacher je me demande le quel.

Le best cest de la faire vérifier, tu va en avoir le cœur nette. Mais est belle en TA! Bravo

Very nice!

sont vice cacher cest d'etre belle

tres belle job, elle est magnifique

C'est la troisième enfield que je monte dans ce full stock,ca fesait jamais l'affaire,le stock était bâti pour cette armes elle fit parfaitement.
Dantiwill je serait intéressé a essayer tes boulet coulé avec cette enfield.

Je suis sur que meme flambant neuve ta Enfield devait pas etre aussi belle.

Félicitation pour ta restauration