Nombre de messages : 19822 Age : 67 Localisation : Saguenay Emploi : Retraité Loisirs : Tout ce qui me fait du bien et m'oxygène l'esprit Date d'inscription : 06/01/2010
Sujet: J'en veux un Mer 22 Aoû 2012 - 19:01
Ils vont arriver en septembre au Canada Le SUOMI M-31 [img]Un SUOMI M-31 [/img]
Sermi-auto NON-Restreint Et le plus beau MSRP $699
Caliber:9x19mm Luger/Para Weight: 4.6 kg empty, 7,03 kg with loaded 71-rounddrum Length: 870 mm Barrel length: 314 mm (476.25 mm non restricted) Rate of fire: 900 rounds per minute (Full-auto) Magazine capacity: 20, 36 or 50-round box magazinesand 40- or 71-round drum magazines Effective range: 200 meters
The Suomi ("Finland") submachine gun was developed by Finnish arms designer Aimo Lachti in 1920-1930 period. First prototype was built by 1922, and by 1926 Lahti produced a working weapon, chambered for then-standard Finnish army's 7,65x22 Luger / Parabellum ammunition. Definitive version of the Suomi submachine gun was adopted by Finnish Army in 1931 as Suomi-KP Model 1931, or simply KP-31 (KP stands for Konepistooli - Automatic Pistol in Finnish language). Suomi submachine gun was manufactured by Finnish company Tikkakoski Oy, and licensed to Denmark (Madsen), Sweden (Husqwarna) and Switzerland (Hispano Suiza). Used mostly by Finnish and Sweden armies, it was also widely exported into Baltic countries, some European and South American countries. Suomi was used with great success during Winter War of 1940 against Soviet Union, when, wisely used, this SMG showed to the world the importance of the submachine guns to the modern warfare. Manufacture of the Suomi was ceased in Finland in 1944, but it was used well until the 1990s, when finally rendered obsolete and replaced in Army by assault rifles.
Suomi submachine gun is a blowback operated, selective fire weapon. It fires from the open bolt, and used so called "differential locking" or "advanced primer ignition" principle, when fixed firing pin ignites the primer BEFORE the bolt stops on its way forward into the battery, so the bolt momentum of inertia is used to lock the chamber during the initial phase of shot, when pressure in the chamber is high. The bolt and receiver were machined from high quality steel and bolt was fitted to the receiver almost airtight. The rear cover of the receiver was screwed on to it also almost hermetically. This was necessary to achieve a fire rate reduction by using a simple vacuum valve in the receiver cover - when bolt moved back, the valve let the air out easily from the space behind the bolt. When bolt started to move forward, the valve closed itself, so difference of air pressures behind the bolt and in atmosphere slowed the bolt on its way forward into the battery. The charging handle was somewhat similar in appearance to one found on bolt action rifles; it is located behind and below the receiver, and does not move when gun was fired. The safety - fire selector is located at the front of triggerguard, and gun could be fired in semi-auto or in full-auto Another interesting feature was the quick-detachable barrel and barrel jacket. This feature, more adequate to machine guns, was a welcome during intensive fire-fights, when many hundreds of shots were fired in fully automatic mode. Sometimes the barrel was also fitted with machined muzzle brake / compensator. Suomi was fed from box or drum magazines. Box magazines were conventional staggered-column ones for 20 rounds or twin-staggered-column magazines for 50 rounds each (also known as "Coffin magazines" due to their shape, these could be described as two staggered-column magazines clipped together and having common cartridge exit). Drum magazines held 40 (rarely encountered early versions) or 71 rounds and later inspired Russians to adopt drum magazines for their PPD and PPSch SMGs. In mid-1950s Finnish army also adopted 36-round magazine, designed in Sweden for M/45 Carl Gustaf submachine gun, and Suomi submachine guns were slightly modified to accept those magazines. In general, the Suomi KP-31 was a highly effective,reliable and accurate gun, but too expensive to manufacture.
macoizo Grande gueule / Big mouth
Nombre de messages : 6082 Age : 61 Localisation : Rimouski Emploi : Fabrication de skis Date d'inscription : 04/04/2009
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Mer 22 Aoû 2012 - 20:40
Tu parles d'un drôle de bruit!! On dirait une vieille machine à coudre à pédale!!!
oncle will Grande gueule / Big mouth
Nombre de messages : 11832 Age : 67 Localisation : dans le bois ou l'air est frais Emploi : retraité. Loisirs : le Quebec m'en prive! Date d'inscription : 18/12/2009
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Mer 22 Aoû 2012 - 20:47
ouin belle machine , le fun cest avec un chargeur a grande capacité, mais au quuuuuuuubec ont as des lois qui nous protege contre les vilains garnement.
Alain1963 Grande gueule / Big mouth
Nombre de messages : 6447 Age : 61 Localisation : Val d'Or Emploi : Livreur Loisirs : Tiré, tiré et reload!!!!!! Ha oui EP !!!!! Date d'inscription : 26/04/2012
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Mer 22 Aoû 2012 - 21:48
Belle arme Popymoy !!
Si tu l'achéte j,espére que tu va mon montré des photos !!!
chris666 Grande gueule / Big mouth
Nombre de messages : 5479 Date d'inscription : 01/05/2011
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Mer 22 Aoû 2012 - 23:00
qui importe
molesto Grande gueule / Big mouth
Nombre de messages : 1425 Age : 48 Localisation : With your mom! Emploi : xxx Loisirs : .45Acp 7.62x39 7.62x54r .223 .308 12gauge .22 Date d'inscription : 30/01/2011
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Jeu 23 Aoû 2012 - 1:36
Son rivet des magazine a tomber ...........Non il demeure du bon coter de la frontiere
Libertarian Shooter Régulier / Regular
Nombre de messages : 403 Age : 40 Localisation : Trois-Rivieres Emploi : Manutentionaire Loisirs : Jeux Vidéo, Armes a feu, WWE Date d'inscription : 22/07/2012
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Jeu 23 Aoû 2012 - 3:37
oncle will a écrit:
ouin belle machine , le fun cest avec un chargeur a grande capacité, mais au quuuuuuuubec ont as des lois qui nous protege contre les vilains garnement.
Les folies de barrer les chargeur a 5 coups c'est juste aux Québec? Je pensais c'était une loi Canadienne??
50AE R.I.P.
Nombre de messages : 1278 Date d'inscription : 19/08/2008
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Jeu 23 Aoû 2012 - 8:30
Canadienne
Buffalo Grande gueule / Big mouth
Nombre de messages : 16444 Localisation : Couronne nord Loisirs : milsurps et autres vieux cossins Date d'inscription : 28/12/2010
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Jeu 23 Aoû 2012 - 9:06
Oh, une autre arme Finlandaise!
Entends-je déjà PP saliver?
Elles ont fait suer les Soviets ces belles Suomis. (Suomi veut dire Finlande en Finnois, en passant)
Popymoy Modérateur
Nombre de messages : 19822 Age : 67 Localisation : Saguenay Emploi : Retraité Loisirs : Tout ce qui me fait du bien et m'oxygène l'esprit Date d'inscription : 06/01/2010
Nombre de messages : 1799 Age : 48 Localisation : Laval Emploi : encore 9 ans avant la retraite Lol Loisirs : Milsurps, Magic et Muscle Cars Date d'inscription : 21/04/2012
Nombre de messages : 19822 Age : 67 Localisation : Saguenay Emploi : Retraité Loisirs : Tout ce qui me fait du bien et m'oxygène l'esprit Date d'inscription : 06/01/2010
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Jeu 30 Aoû 2012 - 9:28
Va y avoir elle qui pour moi pourrait être plus intéressante qui va arriver en septembre chez Frontier Firearms Elle a vraiment de la gueule une belle m1 carbine Auto Ordonnance flambaille
$900
Popymoy Modérateur
Nombre de messages : 19822 Age : 67 Localisation : Saguenay Emploi : Retraité Loisirs : Tout ce qui me fait du bien et m'oxygène l'esprit Date d'inscription : 06/01/2010
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Jeu 30 Aoû 2012 - 9:32
Elles ont étées en service j'usqu'en 1998...Probablement des originales Kohrvarik
Kohrvarik Grande gueule / Big mouth
Nombre de messages : 1799 Age : 48 Localisation : Laval Emploi : encore 9 ans avant la retraite Lol Loisirs : Milsurps, Magic et Muscle Cars Date d'inscription : 21/04/2012
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Jeu 30 Aoû 2012 - 10:47
Popymoy a écrit:
Elles ont étées en service j'usqu'en 1998...Probablement des originales Kohrvarik
Ahhh DAMN, ça va me couté cher là Popymoy, merci je la Bonne/Mauvaise nouvelle
Popymoy Modérateur
Nombre de messages : 19822 Age : 67 Localisation : Saguenay Emploi : Retraité Loisirs : Tout ce qui me fait du bien et m'oxygène l'esprit Date d'inscription : 06/01/2010
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Jeu 30 Aoû 2012 - 11:00
Désolé Kohrvarik
sol Grande gueule / Big mouth
Nombre de messages : 2813 Age : 62 Localisation : south beach ville Emploi : millwright Loisirs : quand je reussis a marcher j aime bien excursion foret ,,marche ,,tir , chasse ,,peche et bon resto Date d'inscription : 05/08/2007
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Ven 31 Aoû 2012 - 19:43
Popymoy a écrit:
Ils vont arriver en septembre au Canada Le SUOMI M-31 [img]Un SUOMI M-31 [/img]
Sermi-auto NON-Restreint Et le plus beau MSRP $699
Caliber:9x19mm Luger/Para Weight: 4.6 kg empty, 7,03 kg with loaded 71-rounddrum Length: 870 mm Barrel length: 314 mm (476.25 mm non restricted) Rate of fire: 900 rounds per minute (Full-auto) Magazine capacity: 20, 36 or 50-round box magazinesand 40- or 71-round drum magazines Effective range: 200 meters
The Suomi ("Finland") submachine gun was developed by Finnish arms designer Aimo Lachti in 1920-1930 period. First prototype was built by 1922, and by 1926 Lahti produced a working weapon, chambered for then-standard Finnish army's 7,65x22 Luger / Parabellum ammunition. Definitive version of the Suomi submachine gun was adopted by Finnish Army in 1931 as Suomi-KP Model 1931, or simply KP-31 (KP stands for Konepistooli - Automatic Pistol in Finnish language). Suomi submachine gun was manufactured by Finnish company Tikkakoski Oy, and licensed to Denmark (Madsen), Sweden (Husqwarna) and Switzerland (Hispano Suiza). Used mostly by Finnish and Sweden armies, it was also widely exported into Baltic countries, some European and South American countries. Suomi was used with great success during Winter War of 1940 against Soviet Union, when, wisely used, this SMG showed to the world the importance of the submachine guns to the modern warfare. Manufacture of the Suomi was ceased in Finland in 1944, but it was used well until the 1990s, when finally rendered obsolete and replaced in Army by assault rifles.
Suomi submachine gun is a blowback operated, selective fire weapon. It fires from the open bolt, and used so called "differential locking" or "advanced primer ignition" principle, when fixed firing pin ignites the primer BEFORE the bolt stops on its way forward into the battery, so the bolt momentum of inertia is used to lock the chamber during the initial phase of shot, when pressure in the chamber is high. The bolt and receiver were machined from high quality steel and bolt was fitted to the receiver almost airtight. The rear cover of the receiver was screwed on to it also almost hermetically. This was necessary to achieve a fire rate reduction by using a simple vacuum valve in the receiver cover - when bolt moved back, the valve let the air out easily from the space behind the bolt. When bolt started to move forward, the valve closed itself, so difference of air pressures behind the bolt and in atmosphere slowed the bolt on its way forward into the battery. The charging handle was somewhat similar in appearance to one found on bolt action rifles; it is located behind and below the receiver, and does not move when gun was fired. The safety - fire selector is located at the front of triggerguard, and gun could be fired in semi-auto or in full-auto Another interesting feature was the quick-detachable barrel and barrel jacket. This feature, more adequate to machine guns, was a welcome during intensive fire-fights, when many hundreds of shots were fired in fully automatic mode. Sometimes the barrel was also fitted with machined muzzle brake / compensator. Suomi was fed from box or drum magazines. Box magazines were conventional staggered-column ones for 20 rounds or twin-staggered-column magazines for 50 rounds each (also known as "Coffin magazines" due to their shape, these could be described as two staggered-column magazines clipped together and having common cartridge exit). Drum magazines held 40 (rarely encountered early versions) or 71 rounds and later inspired Russians to adopt drum magazines for their PPD and PPSch SMGs. In mid-1950s Finnish army also adopted 36-round magazine, designed in Sweden for M/45 Carl Gustaf submachine gun, and Suomi submachine guns were slightly modified to accept those magazines. In general, the Suomi KP-31 was a highly effective,reliable and accurate gun, but too expensive to manufacture.
Nombre de messages : 19822 Age : 67 Localisation : Saguenay Emploi : Retraité Loisirs : Tout ce qui me fait du bien et m'oxygène l'esprit Date d'inscription : 06/01/2010
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Ven 31 Aoû 2012 - 20:04
Trippant mais chez nous pouf - pouf -pouf -pouf -pouf et c'est fini
Alain1963 Grande gueule / Big mouth
Nombre de messages : 6447 Age : 61 Localisation : Val d'Or Emploi : Livreur Loisirs : Tiré, tiré et reload!!!!!! Ha oui EP !!!!! Date d'inscription : 26/04/2012
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Ven 31 Aoû 2012 - 20:40
C'est con cette lois la !!!! Pour la chasse je peu comprendre . mais pour le tire au champ de tire c'est ridicul !!!
Si ils ont peur de .... qu,il permet avec un permie spécial de la maison au champ de tire comme les restrins !!!
Libertarian Shooter Régulier / Regular
Nombre de messages : 403 Age : 40 Localisation : Trois-Rivieres Emploi : Manutentionaire Loisirs : Jeux Vidéo, Armes a feu, WWE Date d'inscription : 22/07/2012
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Sam 1 Sep 2012 - 4:25
Je voit cette arme et sa me fait penser est se que un PPSH 41 russe en semi auto serait autorisé? (restraint ou non)
PerversPépère Administrateur
Nombre de messages : 20350 Age : 73 Localisation : Shawi-les-Frites Emploi : Très chouette mais pas payant! Loisirs : Photo, tir, rechargement, me gosser des bébelles, etc... Date d'inscription : 31/01/2007
Sujet: Re: J'en veux un Sam 1 Sep 2012 - 9:44
Juste au moment où je commence à ressortir ma tête hors de l'eau! Je vais devoir me passer de cette Suomi, ça devient ruineux! PP.
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